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Old 11-24-2013, 12:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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QUEENSBURY, N.Y. Coming soon to your local sheriff: 18-ton, armor-protected military fighting vehicles with gun turrets and bulletproof glass that were once the U.S. answer to roadside bombs during the Iraq war.

The hulking vehicles, built for about $500,000 each at the height of the war, are among the biggest pieces of equipment that the Defense Department is giving to law enforcement agencies under a national military surplus program.

For police and sheriff's departments, which have scooped up 165 of the mine-resistant ambush-protected vehicles, or MRAPS, since they became available this summer, the price and the ability to deliver shock and awe while serving warrants or dealing with hostage standoffs was just too good to pass up.

"It's armored. It's heavy. It's intimidating. And it's free," said Albany County Sheriff Craig Apple, among five county sheriff's departments and three other police agencies in New York that have taken delivery of an MRAP.

But the trucks have limits. They are too big to travel on some bridges and roads and have a tendency to be tippy on uneven ground. And then there's some cost of retrofitting them for civilian use and fueling the 36,000-pound behemoths that get about 5 miles to the gallon.

Some have said that this is simply more and more heavy tactics for a paramilitary state in which some have forecasted.
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You have a gun? I'll see your gun and raise you a MRAP.
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Nice to know, they will go to swat for sure to start....I don't think there gonna be patrolling in them unless its in the heart of the Detroit ghetto...lol
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Nice to know, they will go to swat for sure to start....I don't think there gonna be patrolling in them unless its in the heart of the Detroit ghetto...lol
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As we prepare.....so do they. How in the world would they use a MRAP to serve a warrant? Somebody still has to get out and knock on the door. Can anyone tell me how it could be used in police work?
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Well since they were free, they will probably just use them for the meter maids
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We already have up-armored Tahoes here . Mraps will be used any way they want. Crowd control, swat transport and hostage rescue. Just be glad they are not Abrams tanks. Would make a hell of a off road RV.
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The militarization of civil law enforcement is pretty scary.
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And it is just beginning.
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