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Because criminals prefer unarmed victims .

Better to have it and not need it then to need it and not have it

Thanks . just found out they are the same as the hornady critical defense . Only difference is the color of the tip .

here is a pic of the round itself

has anyone shot these in a 45 acp or know anything about them . Hornady puts them out . I had never heard of them but they look pretty serious even though the front of the box says zombie max

Winchester model1300 defender

I agree that color was pretty awful . Here is a pic of my pt 145 pro .

Colt 1991 a1 series 80 with vz grips

The pt 145 has a nice kick to it but I expect it in .45 with about a 2 inch barrel . i dont mind the kick to much and still have a pretty nice grouping at 30 yard . it beats the hell out of the s&w 500 or the desert eagle .50 acp . Those monsters kick like a mule . I really like that gray...

Never had any problems with it . I take it to the range several times a year and have never had to do anything but clean it . I Put a couple hundred rounds threw it each time .only time I had it jam was when shooting cheap hollow points that a buddy just had laying . around . same rounds jammed...

Tuarus pt 145 millennium pro 45 acp